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I have been a nurse for 4 years. I went back to school to do this at the age of 30. I sure wish I'd given it more thought. I hate it so much I am leaving. I only work 7/10ths. but that's still too much. I start university in the fall for a career I really want and can't wait. I'd rather take a job with a big pay cut than do this any more. I only wish I haden't borrowed 10's of thousands of dollars to do it. Man what a mistake. I sympathize with anyone who feels as I do. It's never too late to late to start over.

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I have been reading the good and the bad about being a male nurse on this site for awhile. It is a great sounding board. Does anyone know if there is a site dedicated to venting for male nurses. I think that is where I should direct my thoughts. It is probably unfair to the profession for me to generalize about how I am treated. Truly have only worked at 3 or 4 positions. I apologize to those men who have read my comments and felt disheartened about their prospects. Nursing shure beats picking tomatos for a living, unless you like the sunshine and the sound of the birds in the air.

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For a forum on men in nursing, check out: http://people.delphiforums.com/brucewilson/

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Man Stop focussing on yourself and focus on what a difference you can make!<br />
You are there to take care of people, not vice versa. Your sucking everything in, why not try and push something positive out!

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I am self employed. I don't have to deal with whiney, gossipy, backstabbing, b*tchy women. I don't have to deal with men who make me work twice as hard as everyone else to prove I deserve a promotion or a raise. I don't have to request time off when I want a vaction. Self employment has its drawbacks though. I can't play on the internet on someone else's time! I can't call in sick and still get paid. I can't work a 40 hr week and be done at the end of the week. But, I still don't ever want to work for someone else again, making them rich while I struggle to make ends meet. <br />
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I'm happy. I hope to still be doing this in 30 years. What do I do? I'm a recruiter and career coach. I find other people jobs so they can work for someone else.

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I've been nursing for almost 20 years now. I can't believe I have put that much of my life into a job that makes me miserable and now sick. I'm off on medical leave now and hate the idea of going back. <br />
I finally became a supervisor but found that unless you kiss the butt of the one above you, forget it. <br />
My goal was to make the staff feel more recognized for the work they do. I was verbally reprimanded in a meeting for my work on the social committee! I did this work on my own free time! After years of effort, I decided to quit the committee. It lost it's gleam for me and I am sorry that the staff will no longer get their annual "holiday party",or any other type of recognition. I can't take the criticism anymore and the nastiness of coworkers has worn me down. <br />
I may have the fate of the last senior supervisor who went on med leave. She was canned two weeks after she returned.<br />
The only comment I've received from superiors is "get your running shoes out, we're very busy and you'll have a lot of work to come back to"<br />
Dreading the first day back,<br />

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Louise -- try home health sometime. It's a big difference.

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Back in the day I worked on an electronic assembly line. I was the only guy on the line. All those chicks did was wait for someone to go to the bathroom so that they could talk shit. It was so bad that I got paranoid about going to take a leak. God only knows what they said about me when I was gone. <br />
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What's worse is whenever I looked up to rest my tired eyes, right directly in front of me sat this elephant of a woman whose butt was so freaking big that each ass cheak needed it's own seat. It was sheer torture. <br />
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One day my girlfriend left me. I never even called in to tell them that I quit. I just quit going. About two weeks later they called me to inform me that I had been fired. I asked them; "Which part of me not showing up, for two weeks, did you not understand?"<br />
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I remember, a few years earlier, interviewing for an assembly position and the lady interviewing me insisted that this field was not for guys. She is absolutely correct! Live and learn. NEVER AGAIN!

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Money money money!!!! give me money!!!

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I have been an RN for more than 20 years. The stress, misery and abuse I suffered at the hands of administration, physcians and fellow nurses are a crime against humanity.<br />
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Nursing is the only profession that I can think of where the more education, experience and responsibility that you take on actually results in your being paid less than the simple staff nurse makes for putting in his/her normal shift.<br />
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I used to be so depressed and emotionally exhausted that I would actually fantize that some car would run a red light and smash into my car so that I could go to the hospital as a patient and NOT have to work and expose myself to the stress of the unit that night. Is this not the most pathetic thing that you have ever heard?<br />
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Ah, yes. As a nurse, you are told by administration that you are a "professional" and as such, they expect you to complete professional levels of education, hold pofessional licences, complete professional continuing education each year, adhere to professional standards, assume professional responsibilities and represent your facility/employer as a professional. <br />
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Fine and dandy; how about recieving some of the pay and perks of being a "professional"?? No, that is a different story. When you try to stand up for yourself and for your future as a professional, you have no power and no voice. Administration immediately slaps you down and informs you that you are an hourly employee and if you do not like what is handed to you, your job is threatened and you are told that you can "hit the road". <br />
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Does this sound like being a true professional? Hell no!! A nurse is only a "professional" as long as it fits the agenda of the doctors and the administrators.<br />
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I used to become so depressed about being a nurse. Like many other nurses, I hated it beyond the meaning of the word. I remember thumbing through the yellow pages trying desperately to identify some job, ANY job wherein I could use my nursing education, skills and knowledge in some profession OTHER than actual nursing.<br />
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I searched for more than 10 years to find that niche and finally, I am not even really sure how, I actually DID find something that I thought would get me out of the hospital and into a normal, healthy life.<br />
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At first, I tried to calculate how little I could get by on. Like all other nurses, I had been trained and brainwashed into believing that I had to be an employee to find work. I intially had to get past that mentality and, I admit, it was a tough process for me.<br />
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I figured that if I could only make $500 per week, I could eke out a life for myself. I began my new business and used my nursing skills and knowledge every day and with every client.<br />
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I started out with virtually NO recognition and nobody knew me or my service. I found out immediately that there really WAS a demand for what I had to offer. The really wierd thing was that NO other nurse was offering my service!! The telephone calls began to flood in. <br />
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My first year, I was shocked that I actually matched what I had made as a nurse working in a hospital with more than 20 years of experience. My secound year, I made $75,000. I am now headed into the beginning of my forth year and believe it or not, I am actually making what the US Dept of Labor lists as the average income of a Internal Medicine and OB/GYN doctor!!<br />
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For the first time in my miserable career as a nurse, I actually FEEL like a professional and EARN professional pay. You have no idea how strange a feeling it is when I meet up with many of the docs that I once worked with and secrtly know that I make as much, if not more, money per year than they do.<br />
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I am in the process of writing a book on my experiences. My book will give other nurses a step by step guide on how to start their own business and begin a wonderful new life for themselves and their families. A life rich with opportunity that will allow them to still work as a nurse but without all the emotional and physical pathology than comes with the traditional "pigeon hole" positions designed for nurses by doctors and hospital administrators to line their own pockets and finance their own rich lifestyles.<br />
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My book will not be finished for a few months but anybody interested in hearing about it when it is completed may email me.<br />
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I wish each of my fellow nurses the opportunity to have a quality of life and not have to start over with years of education and retraining to find it. Please do not dispair, the answers truly are out there, if you just know where to look.

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I hate being a nurse. if i didnt have to pay bills i would quit. i never stay at a job more than 3-6 months. it is so stressful! i think that in order for there not to be a nursing shortage that when a nurse has been in her career for over 6 months they should not have to work weekends unless they want to. i am so tired of working weekends. i have gone thru 2 marriages in my short career because of the hours. it sucks.

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I am right there with all of you. I hate nursing with a passion! All of your comments make me feel so much better about my decision to leave nursing only 6 months after graduation. I will print out your comments for my parents to read and they can see I'm not crazy.

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Why is it so awful to be a nurse? I think its the powerlessness. You are always the one who is in the middle. Shit flows downhill and all the shit flows to nursing. We hear all the complaining, we see all the suffering. We do a highly technical job and don't get paid for it. Nursing is bad because of nurses. We don't promote ourselves or educate the public about what we do, so they still think we wear hats and carry bedpans. We don't demand the respect we deserve. Medicine would collapse without us. Is nursing in such a miserable state because of the people it attracts? Does it attract people who whine but keep shovelling the shit anyhow? Nursing will eventually die out because nurses refuse to stand up for themselves.

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I am a UK RN with 5 yrs clinical experience. I work in critical Care and earn approx 25,000 dollars a year!! For this reason I am moving to the US next year where I hope to recieve better pay and improved conditions (have you heard of the state of the 8) British health system?)

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I am a UK RN with 5 yrs clinical experience. I work in critical Care and earn approx 25,000 dollars a year!! For this reason I am moving to the US next year where I hope to recieve better pay and improved conditions (have you heard of the state of the 8) British health system?)

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What the hell does your coworkers obesity and/or gender status have to do with your dissatisfaction? Ignorance is bliss...you blindly blame them as your patient's families blindly blamed you.

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In case you just read my previous message, "What the hell does your coworkers obesity and/or gender status, etc." and were wondering what the hell I am talking about... I was replying to a message that a nurse wrote regarding having to work with a bunch of obese and complaining female nurses...and it pissed me off. I have read alot of messages from complaining male nurses as well. I just think that nurses are bashed enough without fellow nurses bashing them some more for being female and/or obese...you know what I mean?

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nursing is MEGA SHIT I would not do it if my life depends upon it. I cant wait to qualify as a DR then I can kick those bitch staff nurses arses like they used to mine when I was an aux. Hope you rot in bedpan heaven

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I love nursing. It gives me sooo much satisfaction to earn peanuts and get up at the crack of dawn to go and clean up shit for 12 hours. ooooooh the smell of it!!! I mean who else has to do 3 years of a uni course and then get treated by everyone else as if they have shit for brains! Man If my daughter ever thought about doing nursing I would turn off their life support machine.
If nursing is sooooo great why does the UK have to go all over the world to staff the NHS because NO English people with half a brain want to do a career that is sooooooo crud.
I feel bad as Im sitting next to a student nurse. poor deluded bitch!!!!"

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Careers choices

To the author of this tyrade: The nursing proffession is not the problem, your career choice was. Nursing is a hard and often thankless profession, but has many, many wonderful aspects to it as well. What about those patients that are a joy to care for? What about the personal satisfaction found in knowing that you did your best to make someone else feel better, or that you used your medical knowledge to the benefit of someone else, or that because of you, someone's life was changed for the better, or even saved? These are things to think about before bashing an entire profession based on the fact that you chose the wrong career for you. Maybe you should try a career with more of an immediate gratification aspect to it. It also sounds like you need to try a job that requires a lot less dedication, hard work and compassion, traits that you obviously lack. Also, good luck finding a job where gossip, obesity and complaining are not present, whether women are employed there or not. Men are just as fat as women and in my experience, do about 10 times more complaining, so, again, best of luck to you.

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Huh?

You must not be a bedside nurse to write that! Notice that the people who write positive things about nursing are mainly students of nursing, new nurses, or nurses who do not work at the bedside. Notice also that many of the people whose posts are hostile toward nurses who want to leave bedside nursing do not state that they are bedside nurses (only one who does this for a living knows the nightmare that is modern nursing) and if they are bedside nurses it gives a perfect example of how one is treated by co-workers in the nursing field. I have been an RN for over ten years and the working conditions are practically third world, the low to average pay looks good to someone who scratches out a living but is NOT worth the agony of the job. I have worked in several hospitals throughout the US and in many types of settings. I am verbally abused on a daily basis from the housekeepers to the supervisors. I am physically abused by patients on a weekly basis. I have been threatened countless times by patients and family members due to no fault of mine I assure you. I rarely get breaks or lunches during my 12 1/2 - 13 hour shifts. I MIGHT get to go to the bathroom once a shift if I'm lucky and there isn't time to drink fluids so usually I don't urinate on myself. The paperwork, subsequent data entry, quadruple charting is astronomical to the point that there are too many shifts where I spend maybe an hour total with each of my two to three critical care patients per shift. The hospitals I work at now sometimes runs out of emergency drugs and has run out of endotracheal tube trays on more than one occasion, there is little qualified staff available, the soap and paper towel dispensers are frequently empty, clean linen is minimal, the dirty utility room has dirty linen stinking to the ceiling and falling on the floor. The garbage cans are spilling onto the floor. As a nurse I come on shift and recieve a sketchy report, stock my rooms with gloves, empty the garbage in my rooms and put it on the piles of trash spilling all over the floor of the dirty utility room, I answer the phone and transfer calls etc frequently because the hospital feels it is appropriate to staff one unit clerk for four critical care units in a traum center. I fax and enter mine and others orders because the unit clerk is slammed and mad that she's being abused like that. I check my med drawers to find that many of the meds have not been delivered, I fill out order sheets, fax them, give report to another slammed RN and go to the pharmacy to get the shifts meds for my patients. I check my careplans to see what supplies I need and usually order many of them from SPD as the hospital runs most departments on a skeleton crew. I go to SPD to get the items. I must operate the security doors in the trauma unit to allow visitors and doctors in as many doctors don't wear their badges to let them in. I must stuff my charts so orders can be written. I must find time to enter my patients rooms to pick up the garbage from the floor, clean the body fluids from the IV pumps and monitors, turn the monitor alarms back on as they are turned off much of the time, I must then fight a sea of visitors who take up residence in the rooms to try to see my patients. Once I get near the patient I must do a head to toe exam, change the tubing/equipment and label it, run EKG, A-line, CVP, ICP strips, post them and analyze them. I must give my 2-3 patients a full bath and linen change (usually by myself) because the hospital feels it is appropriate to staff several units with one or two techs for about 24 RN's and level 1 trauma patients. I must correct all problems with the patient and the patient's family. I must turn my patients (who are usually 250 to 600 pounds each) at least every two hours and do oral care at least every two hours. I must write down VS as often as every 5 minutes and subsequently chart it in the computer as well as in the nurses notes and other VS flowsheets. I must release my patient's wrist restraints ( to stop them from pulling out the life saving lines/tubes) every hour and do ROM and don't forget to chart that in the nurses notes, computer and other flowsheets. What I have reported here is about 5% of what I must do over the course of my shift! I must mix my own critical care infusions, check the crash cart, do the controls on the BGM, pass out meal trays three times a day (if they can eat), feed patients, clean up, chart all that too! Now we've reached about 7% of what I do in a shift...is anyone starting to see that we nurses have 2,457,000 things to do a shift and make sure there are no mistakes?! Meanwhile we are abused by staff, patients, family members, doctors, callers on the phone. The stress is off the chart. At first when I started this job I was only affected mentally and that didn't start until I was a nurse for about 2 years. After 7 years as a nurse I developed hypertension, breaking out in rashes while at work, insomnia, diarrhea alternating with constipation (depending on if I was able to eat or drink that shift), chest pain, shortness of breath. I could write about the horrors for hours and the sad thing is that the powers that be are well aware of all of this and they do not care about anything but making money however they project an image of caring while continueing to promote the nursing shortage. Want to get rid of the nursing "shortage"? Double all nurse's salary, give us a decent benefit package, pay us double time for holidays, time and a half for over 36 hours a week. Let us make our schedules-we will be fair. Give monetary incentives to work weekends and nights. It should not be mandatory to work rotating shifts, weekends and holidays. If you compensate for those shifts you will have more than enough nurses to work nights, weekends, and holidays.
No more than 2 patients in critical care, no more than 4 patients in telemetry, no more than 6 patients on the floor, always have at least one unit clerk per unit and at least one tech and one CNA per unit, hire staff to stock and deliver supplies, meds etc so that nurses don't have to stop, write, fax, go get these things multiple times a shift. LET US HAVE BREAKS!!! Give us more than one bathroom per 40 staff members. Give us a safe place to put our work bags and personal items when we get to work. Give us enough chairs so we can sit sometimes. Give us enough computers for the nurses and staff to use. Give us enough counter space to write. Give us supplies like soap, paper towels, linens, meds, gloves etc. This is the tip of the iceberg. At the end of the fiscal year for the past few years the hospital I work for has had several million dollars left over. They have just purchased 150 acres of prime land for 19 million dollars for a new hospital and there is nothing wrong with the hospital we work in!! If my hospital would eliminate some of those high ranking people in administration there would be no financial burden on the hospital and patients would be treated like they are supposed to be because nurses would not be set up to fail as we are now. I am trapped for the moment but I am in school and get through the shift knowing I don't have to be a nurse forever. And for those who read this with the intent to flame me for what little about my job I have exposed here: I do care about people, I do want to help people, I am not a monster, I wish nursing could be like they show on TV or like they tell you it should be when you are in nursing school BUT IT"S NOT!!! The best nurses I know are so angry about what has happened to what is supposed to be a profession that they come across as aggressive and cold to some but they will leave too and be replaced by fresh faced, low paid, brand new nurses who have not yet realized the trap they have fallen into (abuse, guilt, intimidation=what I like to call "battered nurse syndrome")...but they will.

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I will soon start school for nursing and want to become a Nurse Practitioner any comments will be greatly appreciated.

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Good for you for changing your career and not let nursing continue to abuse and disrespect you, make your body grow old quickly, break your soul and take the happiness out of your life. I feel I need to warn you about something though; the problems that are in nursing are there for the most part because it is a woman's profession. Think about it. I worry now because you are now considering to once again go into another woman's profession. What plagues women's professions? Low pay, no respect, no control, no authority, no power, no prestige, bad schedule, little education.

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Nursing student

I am currently in my first semester of nursing school and I am beginning to wonder if I should pursue OT,PT, pharmacy or become a physician assistant. What stops me is the huge amount of debt and the shortage of jobs for ot and pt. I currently hold a BS in business administation and I cannot find a decent paying jobs and the jobs that pay decent I have interview for and I seem to be beat out of the position due to lack of experience. The nursing students are back stabbing and talk about one another and report you to the faculty. The faculty members are very rude to the students. Should I pursue nursing to avoid adding more huge loans to my already 50,000 in undergraduate loans or should I pursue another medical career and end up in 100,000 or more in debt?

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