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tranquil_realm
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Job Story: Nursing is the worst career in the world.....air force to male nurse

i'm glad you were able to get out of it. it's no better anywhere i've been. not all nurses are nutcases or cruel bitches. but most are as you've found out. and no. noone cares when a nurse breaks down. they use the same tactic of escorting them out of the building. usually they have security do it. and put on a big show to make it look like they are protecting everybody from a deranged person or something. i hope that nurse found her way to something better. i am bound and determined to find a job out of the health care field too. for now i'm going to get back into some homecare to tide me over til i can find something else. your life has got to at least be more pleasant now. hopefully you found a much better career. having been in the service to defend your country should help you. i dont know if it does. it just should.

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all the worng reasons

I see by your "story" you are one of the many that don't understand what being a Nurse really means. Like yourself, many have entered the Nursing Profession lately for all the wrong reasons. I truly believe it is a calling, not just a job someone may think they will try or because it's in demand & they think it's a quick easy buck. I have been a Nurse for 32 years & my husband one for 15. I always knew I wanted to take care of people, it was a second nature to me. I've been around long enough to do all the crap jobs, but caring for people, no matter where they are...ICU, Long Term Care, Newborn Nursery.... is innate & you either have it or you don't.
I suggest if someone is considering entering the Nursing Profession, they need to look within themself & ask if they can accept the responsibility of this wonderful Profession.

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I don't have to read your entire comment to feel for you. I'm not a nurse but I feel like shit all the time too. I don't mean to sound cold, but get over it friend. I've worked for the Army for the last nine years and I'm tired too. Back-track to Air Force and it's seventeen years. The work is fairly easy. It's the cronyism, apathy and abuse that's tiring. The WORLD does this to us. So I'll repeat... GET OVER IT. No one in the military CARES!!!

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I hear you my friend!!

Nursing blows!!

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Losing Battle

Good for you tha tyou decided ot get out of this hellacious bash-each-other profession. I tried to com eup with programs that would improve morale and regain nurse credibility and recognition, but an old nurse up the chain bashedmy ideas saying I was out to save the world. Now, guess who's stole my ideas and is trying to implement them to get Lt Col in the Air Force??? This is an eat-shit world where no one cares about one another. I hope they think about this on their death beds.

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Yeah man I feel for you. I am a navy nurse and have actually had a good experience. Our "senior nurse exectutive" loathed male nurses, so she stuck all of us together on the same ward. It was freaking great. It drove her crazy that we were all happy up there. There was no back stabbing, no meetings that lasted longer than 15 mins, and no rivalries. Report on all patients was done in 10 to 15 mins tops. If you needed a day off, someone would always switch, and most importantly you didnt have to worry about the previous shift leaving all sorts of shit for you to clean up, if we needed to stay and help for a bit we did and didnt bitch about it. If something was broken we fixed it. We didnt form a fucking committee to determine what kind of office supplies or adult diapers we should get! The problem, at least from my military experience, is that it is still dominated by men-hating women that haven't taken care of a patient in 10-15 years. I am sure this is much worse in the civilian community but at this naval hospital us "murses" stick together. 90% of us are prior enlisted so we know what its like to work hard for no money. Hell, at least now we get 0-3 pay! Its the dinosaur women that begin to resemble men you have to look out for. My wife is a nurse too and I cant believe all the petty bullshit she has to put up with. Lucky for her she is really good at what she does, she just flat out tells coworkers, administration or doctors what she thinks. Its pretty funny actually. As for the navy job itself, its not bad and its not great. Probably just like any job. sure you can feel overwhelmed at times but if you have good coworkers (ie not a bunch of lazy, bitchy women) 12 hours go by pretty quick and you end up with some golfing buddies. I know at some point it will be shitty again but I want that retirement that you already have plus they are paying for my PNP. I dont plan on nursing after my military career, maybe just do the PNP thing for a while or go back and become a teacher so i can have summers off with the kids.

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the absolute truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Fuc_ing idiot

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I see by your "story" you are one of the many that don't understand what being a Nurse really means. Like yourself, many have entered the Nursing Profession lately for all the wrong reasons. I truly believe it is a calling, not just a job someone may think they will try or because it's in demand & they think it's a quick easy buck. I have been a Nurse for 32 years & my husband one for 15. I always knew I wanted to take care of people, it was a second nature to me. I've been around long enough to do all the crap jobs, but caring for people, no matter where they are...ICU, Long Term Care, Newborn Nursery.... is innate & you either have it or you don't.
I suggest if someone is considering entering the Nursing Profession, they need to look within themself & ask if they can accept the responsibility of this wonderful Profession.



A calling to what? The gates of HELL.

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Another FUC_ING IDIOT

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I don't have to read your entire comment to feel for you. I'm not a nurse but I feel like shit all the time too. I don't mean to sound cold, but get over it friend. I've worked for the Army for the last nine years and I'm tired too. Back-track to Air Force and it's seventeen years. The work is fairly easy. It's the cronyism, apathy and abuse that's tiring. The WORLD does this to us. So I'll repeat... GET OVER IT. No one in the military CARES!!!


Don't open your mouth, cause you talk shit fuck wit. The Air Force is a breeze compared to nursing, so is the Army.

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A calling to what? The gates of HELL.


No. A mental and physical breakdown, plus an early death.

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If it's broken fix it. Do whatever you have to: strike, quit so that there is a huge age of nurses, expose what's going on in the industry (but not in a bitchy way), and stick together so that you can fix the bloody problem. Otherwise just get out and save your self. You have the power to change it, if you work together. Force the government to listen, by joining forces and working as a team for changes that are much needed.

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A huge shortage of nurses sounds good. The government would have to listen to them.

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No. A mental and physical breakdown, plus an early death.


Some fuc_ing calling that is. I hope God doesn't call me into nursing. And it smells like shit. It's a one-way ticket to hell alright!

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I am now working in nursing and I agree that it is not what I want. I was a teacher for 9 years and it wasn't what it was cracked up to be either. There are too many people in charge of others that think they should rule and stomp anyone who doesn't bow down and kiss their asses, especially when they're wrong. These people can be found in any kind of job, and when that happens, the whole profession will be Hell on Earth! I feel for you and I agree that nursing is a profession that needs a lot of changing. So is teaching. Knowing what I know now about teaching, if I had young children, I would not want to send them to most public schools.

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Re: all the worng reasons

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I see by your "story" you are one of the many that don't understand what being a Nurse really means. Like yourself, many have entered the Nursing Profession lately for all the wrong reasons. I truly believe it is a calling, not just a job someone may think they will try or because it's in demand & they think it's a quick easy buck. I have been a Nurse for 32 years & my husband one for 15. I always knew I wanted to take care of people, it was a second nature to me. I've been around long enough to do all the crap jobs, but caring for people, no matter where they are...ICU, Long Term Care, Newborn Nursery.... is innate & you either have it or you don't.
I suggest if someone is considering entering the Nursing Profession, they need to look within themself & ask if they can accept the responsibility of this wonderful Profession.



You must be on some good drugs honey!! I hate those holier than thou nurses, who act like nursing is such a great job, really they are martyrs who shit on everyone else for expecting a little more from life!! I have been a nurse for a long time too and went into it for the right reasons!!

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Sorry Bro,

Sounds like a shitty time with a capital Shit. I've been a Murse for quite a while and it got a lot better after the first three years. I now have a sweet job, work with mostly men so the bitchy backstabbing shit isn't as frequent. I don't blame you for a second for leaving. I think I just got lucky or something. My job is so cool I actually don't mind overtime and I do do clinical hands on nursing if any naysayers are wondering. If you do go back t nursing give the ED a try, you might find it a little more satisfying and the nurses down there usually are too busy to be bitchy to each other,,OR NOT.

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Angry Hmmm it ain't that shabby!

Ok, I have done just about every crap job out there! I have been inside grease vents longer than 200 yard to clean them for hours with just enough room to wriggle your way onward. Been a blue shirt in the Navy (for those who have been there you know what i am talking about) in the winter on the Korean Sea. Sat on the aft end of the flight deck in the Persian Gulf sucking in all the exhaust fumes from all the aircraft preparing to launch 160° in the shade for 16-18 hours shifts and you have to eat before and after work. Ok ok ok, not going to go on, but you get the point. I have been abused. I am not sure of what hellacious hospitals you guys have been working at, but nursing ain't too shabby! Dude, your in a air conditioned environment, you get lunch, you get paid by the hour, they always have fresh coffee, you can alway get overtime. Yea, there be some bitches in the profession, but tell me what profession doesn't have them? When you can tell me that, I guess I am ready to die cuz I will have then heard it all. Here is some words if wisdom for all that feel that the job is too hard or "crappy"
DON'T TAKE IT PERSONAL!
Serious guys/girls, what the hell, if someone wants to talk behind someone elses back, screw it, who gives a rats ass? Hell you can even have fun with it like do some very odd action that will not compromise your employment but really get people talking about you, I have put myself in tear of laugher doing this, you should try it, but don't tell a soul what and why you are doing it.
Additionally, screw being a staff nurse, agency is where it's at baby! I learned real quick in my career this point. When I first started, I noticed that during the tax season all the nurses were chit chatting at the nurses station about what they pulled in during the last tax year. Average staff nurse = $ 50 K Average agency = $ 100K Oh, but then you'll get the whole "Oh, but staff gets benefits!" LOL, what a load of crap, YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS!
Good God, think about the mutual funds/bonds/CD's and health insurance that you could buy OF YOUR CHOICE with and extra $50K
Here is just an FYI for the nurse that believes that nursing sucks (which it does, but all jobs essentially suck so . . .) If the institution that you are employed at or are considering employment at has a lot of agency nurses or has 12 hours shifts, don't consider employment there! Why???? Cuz 12 hour shifts should be an option, not a mandation. 12 hours shifts were created, because the institution can employ less nurses (cuz no one wants to work there for whatever reason, but get the job there and you will see why shortly after) Hypothetically speaking: why would a hospital pay a agency nurse $50/hour and a staff nurse $25/hour? BECAUSE THE PLACE SUCKS and has trouble finding and keeping staff, what other reason is there? ??? there is a bizarre influx of pt's??? Come on people, open your eyes, it is never too late to learn.
I am riding a gravy train here! Man, I sing and dance for my patients while giving the best nursing care anyone has to offer. Yeah, they think I am crazy, but they love every second of it, and request me everyday they are there, they drive for hours back to the hospital after they are "released into the wild" just to give me gifts and food. Hmmm, no one else that I work with seems to get these gifts. Wonder why? Because most of them are apathetic, complacent, hum-drum, hate their lives, hate their jobs, hate themselves, hate their pt's people.
Guys, you can make a killing in this profession while having a hell of a time doing it. First, don't kill yourself doing 12's unless your like myself and have had serious crappy jobs before. Second, it is where you live, not the profession. Example: I would choose to live anywhere in the south, than somewhere in the North like MN, WI, IA, ND, SD, etc. Sorry if I offend anyone, but those peeps are butt heads! I lived up there for one year, and I felt like committing harry carry, even the supposed sweet little old ladies were a bunch of @)#%*. I wouldn't take a nursing job up there in the summer for $100 an hour! Come down south, maybe even to the dirty south, you will find Southern comfort here that you will definately appreciate! Hey, it is worth a try, don't let your nursing career be a sunk cost. Roll wit it baby, do what feels natural! And everyday say this prayer "God help me be the man my dog thinks I am!"
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You could always come back into the Air Force as a nurse...

$20,000 bonus.

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not to minimize your gripes but...

How is it that an Air Force Aviator, which means pilot, by the way, who retires after 20 goes into nursing? Did you retire a Major or a Lt Col? Why didn't you go fly for an airline? Most officer retirees or junior military officers go on to white collar jobs. Sounds fishy and you're hurting your credibility if you're exaggerating.

Former Army Captain and current Medical Student

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TLC, but where?

It appears you were not an aviator, but the public thought you were one since you wore a flight suit, and therefore you used it to your benefit, and to deceive. I don't care, it hurt no one. Yea, it’s hate city in many hospitals, and Nursing homes particularly if one is a male NA. After one and a half years of a NA in Nursing Homes where I was abused many a time by the staff, even having to threaten them with a letter that I would file a complaint, and thereafter for the next nine months they treated me like one of the girls, then I went to a vo-tech school to become a nurse, but the women there thought I was a Muslim, so in less than a month they concocted a bull story to have me removed. They broke the school / US laws of not discriminating due to religion, but since most were Nazi Catholic like Christians, then they could care less as it was “only one way” their way. I was, and am not a Muslim. I only support all those who believe in one God, so due to being enlightened on religious ideas they thought I was a Muslim. (I went to an attorney, but they said “Go to another vo tech school.” Sure, and then to another, and then another, or learn not to believe in the freedom of speech, and religion would be better. I learned a few years later that I needed to get a lawyer in another county, far away, as the local attorneys knew they would commit community / political suicide by destroying a local school. ) I mentioned that to support that they, the females, were already hateful people even before entering the nursing profession. They can hate me, or even kill me as I heard a number of them say: “Jesus forgives me.” I was already educated, having a BS in Physics, and a BS EE, and worked for years in industry, but just did NA, and then tried nursing to see if other job sectors were more loving. Stay with the boys in Engineering, and have fun, and respect is what I learned. The hogwash propaganda that we all hear often enough that nurses are loving had fooled me. There are some decent and kind nurses out there, but when the rest of Hell’s legion of nurses are taking you down the others know they can not save you, or both will go to Davy Jones’ locker.

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i have a phobia in nursing.... its very scary for me.... when i was still in nursing school , i feel like being in hell everytime i go in the nurses station...

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Talking You might love nursing if...

Try this experiment: Since wearing a flight suit works, this should do better: Get a job at another hospital, and apply as a female. Wear a wig, and a dress, also put on lipstick, so you look female, then work in that role for a while. Report back and tell us if you now love nursing.

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Excuse me Captain Hmmmmm, Sir, nursing is not a blue collar job! I cannot believe you belittled the job by calling it a blue collar job! That is what is wrong with this world. People love to degrade others so they can look big. Good luck in civilian life. You should learn to show some respect for others!

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Making Blue collar, or white collar distinctions is like making male or female distinctions. When does this ever end, in the year 2525?

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Re: all the worng reasons

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I see by your "story" you are one of the many that don't understand what being a Nurse really means. Like yourself, many have entered the Nursing Profession lately for all the wrong reasons. I truly believe it is a calling, not just a job someone may think they will try or because it's in demand & they think it's a quick easy buck. I have been a Nurse for 32 years & my husband one for 15. I always knew I wanted to take care of people, it was a second nature to me. I've been around long enough to do all the crap jobs, but caring for people, no matter where they are...ICU, Long Term Care, Newborn Nursery.... is innate & you either have it or you don't.
I suggest if someone is considering entering the Nursing Profession, they need to look within themself & ask if they can accept the responsibility of this wonderful Profession.



Didn't I just read this post on another thread?

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