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I'm trying to find an area to purchase some land, but need some
geographical information...more than what mapquest or google maps has
to offer. Anyone out there use any mapping service that works great for
them? Or even, have any cities within 200 miles of las vegas that sell
land around $5000/acre? Thanks for your help.

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On 29 Mar 2005 07:43:39 -0800, "pkokkinis" <pkokkinis@gmail.com>
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>I'm trying to find an area to purchase some land, but need some
>geographical information...more than what mapquest or google maps has
>to offer. Anyone out there use any mapping service that works great for
>them? Or even, have any cities within 200 miles of las vegas that sell
>land around $5000/acre? Thanks for your help.

I've been using the GIS system at the Dixie National Forest web site.
We're shopping for land near there and it allows me to map by bodies
of water etc:

http://www.fs.fed.us/r4/dixie/gis/

Land for 5K/acre is available around Cedar City and other points in
Southern Utah. It really kind of depends on your usage. We are
planning to develop off-grid so we don't need access to utilities.
There is a 20 acre plot of land for $37K available 27 miles East of
Cedar City that looked attractive to us, but it turned out to be too
far from the recreational stuff we are trying to get closer to.

Email me if you like and let me know what features you are looking for
in propery and I may be able to point you in the right direction.

Mutant Bluegrass That Rocks!
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> Land for 5K/acre is available around Cedar City and other points in
> Southern Utah. It really kind of depends on your usage. We are
> planning to develop off-grid so we don't need access to utilities.


what do you do for electricity?

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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:53:05 -0800, "billb"
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>> Land for 5K/acre is available around Cedar City and other points in
>> Southern Utah. It really kind of depends on your usage. We are
>> planning to develop off-grid so we don't need access to utilities.
>
>
>what do you do for electricity?

You build the house using massive amounts of insulation so you have no
heating/cooling requirement. Then it's 12v appliances combined with
passive and active solar systems. Satellite internet access provides
communications including phone service. Propane and wood provides some
more heating and cooking options (we're designing a killer outdoor
kitchen to include smoker and pizza oven). Diesel generators on-site
for back-up and short term electric needs. Propane freezer and
referigeration is an option we're considering.

Other items include a large collection of fishing poles, banjos and
guitars, guns for shootin' bunnies, massive amounts of high-grade
tequila, a large-scale homebrewing operation, and numerous guest
cabins.







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"Steve Harder-Kucera" wrote in message ...
"billb" wrote:
>
> >> Land for 5K/acre is available around Cedar City and other points in
> >> Southern Utah. It really kind of depends on your usage. We are
> >> planning to develop off-grid so we don't need access to utilities.
> >
> >
> >what do you do for electricity?
>
> You build the house using massive amounts of insulation so you have no
> heating/cooling requirement. Then it's 12v appliances combined with
> passive and active solar systems. Satellite internet access provides
> communications including phone service. Propane and wood provides some
> more heating and cooking options (we're designing a killer outdoor
> kitchen to include smoker and pizza oven). Diesel generators on-site
> for back-up and short term electric needs. Propane freezer and
> referigeration is an option we're considering.
>
> Other items include a large collection of fishing poles, banjos and
> guitars, guns for shootin' bunnies, massive amounts of high-grade
> tequila, a large-scale homebrewing operation, and numerous guest
> cabins.
>


geez steve, that's got future 'unabomber' written all over it !!



Greg (in (NOT FROM!) Texas) <-- is it June (20-23 at Wynn Las Vegas) yet?

- "The fact is that due to Wynn's "screw 'em everywhere in the building"
mode of operation it will be a tremendous ripoff."
- "He makes his living off dumb rich people."
- "Total ripoff, even for people who can afford it in the blink of an eye."
('Toad the Old Oregan' in alt.vacation.las-vegas)

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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:34:27 GMT, "G & D" <G&D@G&D(SPAMGRD).net>
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>geez steve, that's got future 'unabomber' written all over it !!
>

I know it does.. I'm thinking more along the lines of una-banjoer
though.

But never fear. The only ones who should be afraid are the fish, and
then only the keepers.

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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 02:06:33 GMT, flip <never_send_spam@or_to_me.com>
wrote:

>Have you considered a straw house with sprayed concrete?
>http://www.balewatch.com/
>http://www.solarhaven.org/NewStrawbale.htm
>--flip,

We will very likely go with straw bale construction. We considered
Earthship Biotecture as well but it's more labor intensive than I
would want. They do have some great ideas though. I've read that a
well designed earth ship can provide water, food and housing in an
area with as little as 9" of rainfall per year. We'll probably
incorporate some of their ideas.

We are in contact with the owner of a straw bale house that looks to
be right around 2000 sf and includes and indoor lap pool on the sun
porch. It's very cool.

Real Goods is a leader in the off-grid industry
http://www.realgoods.com/

Their Solar Living Center is a must see for any visitors to Mendocino
County:

http://www.solarliving.org/overview.cfm



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Propane and wood provides some
more heating and cooking options (we're designing a killer outdoor
kitchen to include smoker and pizza oven).


Steve,

I can help you with the design of you outdoor kitchen. I have friends
that have done just what you mentioned. These are people that are very
much into BBQ, smoking and outdoor cooking and have set up some
elaborate kitchens. Best of all, they will share everything they know
for free. Let me know if you're interested and I'll hook you up.

Kurt

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