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In article <v054211f69hvt1uesam3gg57gnmbqqogle@4ax.com>, joe
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> Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
> >Pascal's wager. And as useless now as it was when it was new.
> >
> >A few problems:
> >
> >How do you know which God to believe in? There are plenty to choose
> >from, and if you pick the wrong one, you could be in big trouble (e.g.
> >what if you choose Jesus, but get to heaven only to come face-to-trunk
> >with Ganesh?). This is known as the "Avoiding the wrong Hell problem".
> >If a dozen people of different religions came to you with Pascal's
> >Wager, how could you possibly choose between them?
>
> What about if someone believes in a 'higher power', that is universal,
> and does not depend on believing in and needing salvation from the god
> of any specific religion or any personal savior or one true god etc.?

What do you mean by "believes in?" How the hell does one just decide
to "believe in" something? If you suddenly decided to "believe" that
you are God, or that we being invaded by Martians, or that the earths
core is fudge, people think you are crazy, but when you just decide to
"believe in" a 'higher power', that is universal, that is viewed as a
rational? Give me a break.

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In article <c7pUd.2271$Qd1.531@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>, God Almighty
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> I am the one true God. I shall prove this fact by creating you so that you
> can believe in me. Hey Presto!!! You now exist, complete with memories of
> a life I just made for you, go now knowing that I exist. I am God!!!

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> I am the one true God. I shall prove this fact by creating you so that you
> can believe in me. Hey Presto!!! You now exist, complete with memories of
> a life I just made for you, go now knowing that I exist. I am God!!!

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In article <c7pUd.2271$Qd1.531@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>, God Almighty
<your.creator@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> I am the one true God. I shall prove this fact by creating you so that you
> can believe in me. Hey Presto!!! You now exist, complete with memories of
> a life I just made for you, go now knowing that I exist. I am God!!!

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In article <c7pUd.2271$Qd1.531@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>, God Almighty
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> I am the one true God. I shall prove this fact by creating you so that you
> can believe in me. Hey Presto!!! You now exist, complete with memories of
> a life I just made for you, go now knowing that I exist. I am God!!!

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> I am the one true God. I shall prove this fact by creating you so that you
> can believe in me. Hey Presto!!! You now exist, complete with memories of
> a life I just made for you, go now knowing that I exist. I am God!!!

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"joe" <joe@joey.joe.com> wrote in message
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> Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
> >Pascal's wager. And as useless now as it was when it was new.
> >
> >A few problems:
> >
> >How do you know which God to believe in? There are plenty to choose
> >from, and if you pick the wrong one, you could be in big trouble (e.g.
> >what if you choose Jesus, but get to heaven only to come face-to-trunk
> >with Ganesh?). This is known as the "Avoiding the wrong Hell problem".
> >If a dozen people of different religions came to you with Pascal's
> >Wager, how could you possibly choose between them?
>
> What about if someone believes in a 'higher power', that is universal,
> and does not depend on believing in and needing salvation from the god
> of any specific religion or any personal savior or one true god etc.?

Oh yes indeed, there are several such higher powers.
Electro-magnatism, weak nuclear force, strong nuclear force,
and gravity. They are universal, do not depend on my belief,
and do not require 'salvation'.

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"joe" <joe@joey.joe.com> wrote in message
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> Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
> >Pascal's wager. And as useless now as it was when it was new.
> >
> >A few problems:
> >
> >How do you know which God to believe in? There are plenty to choose
> >from, and if you pick the wrong one, you could be in big trouble (e.g.
> >what if you choose Jesus, but get to heaven only to come face-to-trunk
> >with Ganesh?). This is known as the "Avoiding the wrong Hell problem".
> >If a dozen people of different religions came to you with Pascal's
> >Wager, how could you possibly choose between them?
>
> What about if someone believes in a 'higher power', that is universal,
> and does not depend on believing in and needing salvation from the god
> of any specific religion or any personal savior or one true god etc.?

Oh yes indeed, there are several such higher powers.
Electro-magnatism, weak nuclear force, strong nuclear force,
and gravity. They are universal, do not depend on my belief,
and do not require 'salvation'.

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"joe" <joe@joey.joe.com> wrote in message
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> Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
> >Pascal's wager. And as useless now as it was when it was new.
> >
> >A few problems:
> >
> >How do you know which God to believe in? There are plenty to choose
> >from, and if you pick the wrong one, you could be in big trouble (e.g.
> >what if you choose Jesus, but get to heaven only to come face-to-trunk
> >with Ganesh?). This is known as the "Avoiding the wrong Hell problem".
> >If a dozen people of different religions came to you with Pascal's
> >Wager, how could you possibly choose between them?
>
> What about if someone believes in a 'higher power', that is universal,
> and does not depend on believing in and needing salvation from the god
> of any specific religion or any personal savior or one true god etc.?

Oh yes indeed, there are several such higher powers.
Electro-magnatism, weak nuclear force, strong nuclear force,
and gravity. They are universal, do not depend on my belief,
and do not require 'salvation'.

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"joe" <joe@joey.joe.com> wrote in message
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> Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
> >Pascal's wager. And as useless now as it was when it was new.
> >
> >A few problems:
> >
> >How do you know which God to believe in? There are plenty to choose
> >from, and if you pick the wrong one, you could be in big trouble (e.g.
> >what if you choose Jesus, but get to heaven only to come face-to-trunk
> >with Ganesh?). This is known as the "Avoiding the wrong Hell problem".
> >If a dozen people of different religions came to you with Pascal's
> >Wager, how could you possibly choose between them?
>
> What about if someone believes in a 'higher power', that is universal,
> and does not depend on believing in and needing salvation from the god
> of any specific religion or any personal savior or one true god etc.?

Oh yes indeed, there are several such higher powers.
Electro-magnatism, weak nuclear force, strong nuclear force,
and gravity. They are universal, do not depend on my belief,
and do not require 'salvation'.

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"joe" <joe@joey.joe.com> wrote in message
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> Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
> >Pascal's wager. And as useless now as it was when it was new.
> >
> >A few problems:
> >
> >How do you know which God to believe in? There are plenty to choose
> >from, and if you pick the wrong one, you could be in big trouble (e.g.
> >what if you choose Jesus, but get to heaven only to come face-to-trunk
> >with Ganesh?). This is known as the "Avoiding the wrong Hell problem".
> >If a dozen people of different religions came to you with Pascal's
> >Wager, how could you possibly choose between them?
>
> What about if someone believes in a 'higher power', that is universal,
> and does not depend on believing in and needing salvation from the god
> of any specific religion or any personal savior or one true god etc.?

Oh yes indeed, there are several such higher powers.
Electro-magnatism, weak nuclear force, strong nuclear force,
and gravity. They are universal, do not depend on my belief,
and do not require 'salvation'.

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"joe" <joe@joey.joe.com> wrote in message
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> Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
> >Pascal's wager. And as useless now as it was when it was new.
> >
> >A few problems:
> >
> >How do you know which God to believe in? There are plenty to choose
> >from, and if you pick the wrong one, you could be in big trouble (e.g.
> >what if you choose Jesus, but get to heaven only to come face-to-trunk
> >with Ganesh?). This is known as the "Avoiding the wrong Hell problem".
> >If a dozen people of different religions came to you with Pascal's
> >Wager, how could you possibly choose between them?
>
> What about if someone believes in a 'higher power', that is universal,
> and does not depend on believing in and needing salvation from the god
> of any specific religion or any personal savior or one true god etc.?

Oh yes indeed, there are several such higher powers.
Electro-magnatism, weak nuclear force, strong nuclear force,
and gravity. They are universal, do not depend on my belief,
and do not require 'salvation'.

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"joe" <joe@joey.joe.com> wrote in message
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> Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
> >Pascal's wager. And as useless now as it was when it was new.
> >
> >A few problems:
> >
> >How do you know which God to believe in? There are plenty to choose
> >from, and if you pick the wrong one, you could be in big trouble (e.g.
> >what if you choose Jesus, but get to heaven only to come face-to-trunk
> >with Ganesh?). This is known as the "Avoiding the wrong Hell problem".
> >If a dozen people of different religions came to you with Pascal's
> >Wager, how could you possibly choose between them?
>
> What about if someone believes in a 'higher power', that is universal,
> and does not depend on believing in and needing salvation from the god
> of any specific religion or any personal savior or one true god etc.?

Oh yes indeed, there are several such higher powers.
Electro-magnatism, weak nuclear force, strong nuclear force,
and gravity. They are universal, do not depend on my belief,
and do not require 'salvation'.

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"joe" <joe@joey.joe.com> wrote in message
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> Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
> >Pascal's wager. And as useless now as it was when it was new.
> >
> >A few problems:
> >
> >How do you know which God to believe in? There are plenty to choose
> >from, and if you pick the wrong one, you could be in big trouble (e.g.
> >what if you choose Jesus, but get to heaven only to come face-to-trunk
> >with Ganesh?). This is known as the "Avoiding the wrong Hell problem".
> >If a dozen people of different religions came to you with Pascal's
> >Wager, how could you possibly choose between them?
>
> What about if someone believes in a 'higher power', that is universal,
> and does not depend on believing in and needing salvation from the god
> of any specific religion or any personal savior or one true god etc.?

Oh yes indeed, there are several such higher powers.
Electro-magnatism, weak nuclear force, strong nuclear force,
and gravity. They are universal, do not depend on my belief,
and do not require 'salvation'.

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"joe" <joe@joey.joe.com> wrote in message
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> Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
> >Pascal's wager. And as useless now as it was when it was new.
> >
> >A few problems:
> >
> >How do you know which God to believe in? There are plenty to choose
> >from, and if you pick the wrong one, you could be in big trouble (e.g.
> >what if you choose Jesus, but get to heaven only to come face-to-trunk
> >with Ganesh?). This is known as the "Avoiding the wrong Hell problem".
> >If a dozen people of different religions came to you with Pascal's
> >Wager, how could you possibly choose between them?
>
> What about if someone believes in a 'higher power', that is universal,
> and does not depend on believing in and needing salvation from the god
> of any specific religion or any personal savior or one true god etc.?

Oh yes indeed, there are several such higher powers.
Electro-magnatism, weak nuclear force, strong nuclear force,
and gravity. They are universal, do not depend on my belief,
and do not require 'salvation'.

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> can believe in me. Hey Presto!!! You now exist, complete with memories
of
> a life I just made for you, go now knowing that I exist. I am God!!!
>

Wow. Cool! Glad to make your aquaintance.
Hey, could you do us a favor? Could you
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> I am the one true God. I shall prove this fact by creating you so that
you
> can believe in me. Hey Presto!!! You now exist, complete with memories
of
> a life I just made for you, go now knowing that I exist. I am God!!!
>

Wow. Cool! Glad to make your aquaintance.
Hey, could you do us a favor? Could you
cure all the diseases in the world?
That would be ever so nice of you.
Thanks bunches.

your pal,
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> I am the one true God. I shall prove this fact by creating you so that
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> can believe in me. Hey Presto!!! You now exist, complete with memories
of
> a life I just made for you, go now knowing that I exist. I am God!!!
>

Wow. Cool! Glad to make your aquaintance.
Hey, could you do us a favor? Could you
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That would be ever so nice of you.
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of
> a life I just made for you, go now knowing that I exist. I am God!!!
>

Wow. Cool! Glad to make your aquaintance.
Hey, could you do us a favor? Could you
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That would be ever so nice of you.
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of
> a life I just made for you, go now knowing that I exist. I am God!!!
>

Wow. Cool! Glad to make your aquaintance.
Hey, could you do us a favor? Could you
cure all the diseases in the world?
That would be ever so nice of you.
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> I am the one true God. I shall prove this fact by creating you so that
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> can believe in me. Hey Presto!!! You now exist, complete with memories
of
> a life I just made for you, go now knowing that I exist. I am God!!!
>

Wow. Cool! Glad to make your aquaintance.
Hey, could you do us a favor? Could you
cure all the diseases in the world?
That would be ever so nice of you.
Thanks bunches.

your pal,
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