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Re: Canadians, a couple of questions about health care


"Medium Gnome" <ymodayurhatespaam@hatespaamsan.rr.com> wrote in message
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> An idiotic question that has nothing to do with immigration.
>
> Med. Gnome


Gactimus is an uneducated and ignorant American troll. He's little more than
another brain dead American faggot who the propaganda shit fed to him by his
fascist leader Bush. Gullible Americans like him are of no value and should be
ignored, he's only going to end up being drafted and then blown to bits by a
car bomb in Iraq anyway.


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<cuddles@salmahayeksknockers.edu> wrote in message
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> In soc.culture.usa Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
> > Say Canada was declared war upon by a hostile nation,

>
> Your premise is completely dissociated from reality.


Gactimus is an uneducated and ignorant American troll. He's little more than
another brain dead American faggot who parrots the propaganda shit fed to him
by his fascist leader Bush, who he obeys with out question for he has no will
or courage. Gullible Americans like him are of no value and should be ignored,
he's only going to end up being drafted and then blown to bits by a car bomb in
Iraq anyway.


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<cuddles@salmahayeksknockers.edu> wrote in message
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> In soc.culture.usa Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
> > Say Canada was declared war upon by a hostile nation,

>
> Your premise is completely dissociated from reality.


Gactimus is an uneducated and ignorant American troll. He's little more than
another brain dead American faggot who parrots the propaganda shit fed to him
by his fascist leader Bush, who he obeys with out question for he has no will
or courage. Gullible Americans like him are of no value and should be ignored,
he's only going to end up being drafted and then blown to bits by a car bomb in
Iraq anyway.


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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
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> Say Canada was declared war upon by a hostile nation, and several

provinces
> are victims of intended invasion. The war is fought, millions die, allies
> win, etc. etc.
>
> Would you still demand free healthcare over your own security? Even if you
> know that the U.S. and the U.N. cannot possibly save you all the time?

Even
> if you know that your military isn't exactly the strongest in the world?
>
> Not implying anything, I just wanna know if Canadians feel like healthcare
> beats national security.


It should. We have no national security (military) and our health care
system is hanging on by a thread and about to get quite third-world.

The Liberal government destroyed both institutions for a short-term
socialist utopia that now begins its decline.




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Re: Canadians, a couple of questions about health care

Hey, did y'all know that Theodore Roosevelt proposed a national
healthcare system for the US when he unsuccessfully ran for President
on the Progressive ticket in 1912? You can learn about this by
travelling to the beautiful Health Sciences Library at the UC Berkeley
campus, or you can go learn more about Teddy Roosevelt by visiting
Sagamore Hill in New York or his ranch in North Dakota.
There, that had something marginally travel-related in it. Hint. Hint.

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"Ever since I was a child, I've heard a range of accounts of what happened to
the Palestinians and Palestine. Everyone knows the Jewish version and the Arab
version. But there is a third side, that of those who lived there and still do
-- the Israeli Arabs.

Some Jews want us out of Israel, and some Arabs believe that we are an
extension of the Zionists. Yet we Israeli Arabs keep our culture and
traditions. Mahshy, or stuffed grape leaves, remains our favorite meal. We
love Arabic music; we sing old folk songs, including "Wein aa Ramallah" about a
famous Palestinian city, and songs from all over the Arab world. We are unique
among the Arabs, though. We have vested interests on both sides -- and are
angry at both sides.

Israeli Arabs have lived alongside Jews for as long as this generation can
remember. We became Israeli citizens in 1948. Before that, the region wasn't
quite as divided. Families lived in an area that includes the West Bank, Gaza,
and Amman, and in other Arab cities in areas where borders were created later.
We were divided by boundaries set by the Europeans, and those within the
boundaries of Israel became "Israeli Arabs". Now, these Arabs are the
unwanted, unloved, illegitimate, and have become the biracial step-child of the
Middle East conflict. We have to apologize for our very existence.


Misinformation surrounds the story of 1948. Palestinians who fled their homes
are angry, bitter and distraught. No one can blame them. Yet they seem to
have been taught who they are supposed to hate, who is the guilty party and who
should be punished for their problems. People's memories are so short. It is
easier to focus on one enemy – especially an enemy who does not belong to the
same "tribe" -- than to analyze a complex situation such as the Palestinian
refugee disaster.

It is nt my intent to discuss who belongs in that tiny region called Israel,
but I will risk being shunned by my own community to set the record straight.
The question is: why did Arabs flee the area that became Israel? After all,
the ones who remained in their homes still live there today and prosper.

The fact is that the Arab world warned the Palestinians against staying with
the Jews. They also warned them that Arabs were going in to fight the Zionists
and that the Palestinians should leave to avoid getting hurt.

Many Palestinians trusted these Arab leaders and left as instructed. Those who
had lived with Jews for a long time were not as easily convinced of the danger,
and these Arabs stayed home. Among them was my family, which saw cars
traveling the area. The cars contained Jews. They reassured Arabs that they
would not be harmed. Thus, we had a situation where Jews begged Arabs to stay
and live with them, while Arabs from foreign countries told them to leave right
away.

Palestinians have gotten the short end of the stick in Arab society. It suits
Arab leaders to keep this group in a state of poverty and conflict, and to
channel all resentment toward the Jews. You don't believe me? Ask yourself
why Jordan or Egypt or Syria never gave the Palestinians a country? If I hear
another non-Palestinian, especially an American Muslim, repeat the phrase "over
50 years of the Zionist occupation," I'm going to burst. Can no one actually
read history? It’s not ancient history, just 1948-1967. Who had that land?
Even if Arabs want Palestinians to have "all" the land, this is no excuse for
denying them an independent state. And yet, we blame Israel!

As a child, I watched a Syrian play about the war of October 1973. A famous
Syrian comedian played a young man who fought in the war and was taken
prisoner. After his release, he was detained by his own government. At one
point, the guards slapped him and he started crying.


“Why are you crying?” asked a fellow prisoner, deeply puzzled. “That was
only a slap. I've seen the enemies do much more to you, and you just laughed
it off.”


The comedian replied, “The enemy is an enemy, and I expect that of them. Yes,
a slap is only a slap -- but from a brother, it's a slap in the heart.”

Let's take this a step further. The Arab world pretends to care, watching a
young Palestinian get killed by Israel on TV, justifying Jew-hatred right
before they go to their cozy beds. This is the Arab world that has taught
Palestinians to fight, and yet it will not give them citizenship. Where is
that love -- or, for that matter, where is the passion used to justify the
Palestinian issue?


Let's go to the refugees. Arab governments first used scare tactics, and then
took whatever they could get from the United States and Israel. Finally, they
stuck Palestinians in camps with deplorable living conditions. Why didn't they
leave them alone in their homes? Why promise them refuge and reward them with
nothing more than prison camps? And, most of all, why didn't they provide
Palestinians with homes in the West Bank, Gaza and the Golan Heights when Arabs
had control over them?

Please do not speak of money. Palestinian refugees receive aid from all over
the world, and yet their living conditions don’t seem to improve. The
"hosting" governments siphon off some money to line their pockets, and the
Palestinian Authority -- or lack of it -- siphons off the rest … and the poor
people get nothing.



As a Palestinian, I ask the world to please stop exploiting our issue. If you
want a do a good deed, find your own. There is nothing dreamy aboutTo the
singers romanticizing Palestinian suffering, it is not romantic. T it.
Where’s the heroism in a small child throwing rocks at a tank? Either warn
the child to stay away or just shut up! How dare you do this to our children?
Does our suffering give you such good video footage and high ratings?


To the average Arab citizen,stop crying crocodile tears for us. We thank you
for your kind feelings, but please, don’t offer us your pity. To the Arab
and Islamic governments, fix your own problems. Do not use our misery to blind
your subjects to domestic problems. Are you afraid that the people will wise
up, and stop hating Israel, and turn on you? You, who have condoned so much
hatred, may one day pay the price. You've created monsters, and you won't be
able to handle them. Worry about creating jobs for your own poor people and
educating the children, and leave us alone. In short, to all those invested in
driving our children to die, please, stay away from us."
Never Forgive, Never Forget
9-11-01



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On 28 Dec 2004 18:55:36 GMT, arkadya@aol.com (ARKADYA) wrote:

>"Ever since I was a child, I've heard a range of accounts of what happened to...


Even tho' it was posted byARKADYA, posting jerk - many good articles
such as that one can be read at: http://tinyurl.com/ywstp

They make a lot of sense.






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>the British should have invaded amerika because people like
>the new york fire dept and police were funding IRA terror through its own
>staff pockets...


The Irish arent terrorists, The British are. The IRA is a freedom movement. The
English deserved all the bombs they got.
Never Forgive, Never Forget
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On 28 Dec 2004 23:29:34 GMT, arkadya@aol.com (ARKADYA) wrote:

>>the British should have invaded amerika because people like
>>the new york fire dept and police were funding IRA terror through its own
>>staff pockets...

>
>The Irish arent terrorists, The British are. The IRA is a freedom movement. The
>English deserved all the bombs they got.
>Never Forgive, Never Forget
> 9-11-01


Terrorists are terrorists - putting bombs in stores, markets, buses,
restaurants, and busy street are terror activities -
======== =========== =========== ========== =========

One example (of many) ...IRA Warrington Bombs -

"...Eyewitnesses of the time claim that "the first explosion drove
panicking shoppers into the path of the next blast just seconds
later." There were two fatalities from the blast: a 4 year-old boy
named Johnathan Ball died at the scene whilst buying a Mother's Day
card with a babysitter, and an older boy named Tim Parry who was
sitting on the bin at the time took the full force of the blast. Five
days later he died of his injuries...."
=================================================

Them, the Palestinian, Al Qaeda - the same ...





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On 28 Dec 2004 23:29:34 GMT, arkadya@aol.com (ARKADYA) wrote:

>>the British should have invaded amerika because people like
>>the new york fire dept and police were funding IRA terror through its own
>>staff pockets...

>
>The Irish arent terrorists, The British are. The IRA is a freedom movement. The
>English deserved all the bombs they got.
>Never Forgive, Never Forget
> 9-11-01


Terrorists are terrorists - putting bombs in stores, markets, buses,
restaurants, and busy street are terror activities -
======== =========== =========== ========== =========

One example (of many) ...IRA Warrington Bombs -

"...Eyewitnesses of the time claim that "the first explosion drove
panicking shoppers into the path of the next blast just seconds
later." There were two fatalities from the blast: a 4 year-old boy
named Johnathan Ball died at the scene whilst buying a Mother's Day
card with a babysitter, and an older boy named Tim Parry who was
sitting on the bin at the time took the full force of the blast. Five
days later he died of his injuries...."
=================================================

Them, the Palestinian, Al Qaeda - the same ...





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On 28 Dec 2004 23:29:34 GMT, arkadya@aol.com (ARKADYA) wrote:

>>the British should have invaded amerika because people like
>>the new york fire dept and police were funding IRA terror through its own
>>staff pockets...

>
>The Irish arent terrorists, The British are. The IRA is a freedom movement. The
>English deserved all the bombs they got.
>Never Forgive, Never Forget
> 9-11-01


Terrorists are terrorists - putting bombs in stores, markets, buses,
restaurants, and busy street are terror activities -
======== =========== =========== ========== =========

One example (of many) ...IRA Warrington Bombs -

"...Eyewitnesses of the time claim that "the first explosion drove
panicking shoppers into the path of the next blast just seconds
later." There were two fatalities from the blast: a 4 year-old boy
named Johnathan Ball died at the scene whilst buying a Mother's Day
card with a babysitter, and an older boy named Tim Parry who was
sitting on the bin at the time took the full force of the blast. Five
days later he died of his injuries...."
=================================================

Them, the Palestinian, Al Qaeda - the same ...





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ARKADYA wrote:
>>the British should have invaded amerika because people like
>>the new york fire dept and police were funding IRA terror through its own
>>staff pockets...

>
>
> The Irish arent terrorists, The British are. The IRA is a freedom movement.


Tell that to the women and children victims of the Omagh bombing!

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Just after we finish with Kanada. They are the bigger threat now. They are in
bed with the towel heads.

Glen

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On 29 Dec 2004 13:15:28 GMT, gcryar@aol.com (GCRYAR) wrote:

>Just after we finish with Kanada. They are the bigger threat now. They are in
>bed with the towel heads.


Are soldiers are fighting and dying in Afghanastan - you ignorant
a**hole!






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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 16:22:11 GMT, tnguymNoSpamm@yaho.com
(TheNewsGuy(Mike)) wrote:

>On 29 Dec 2004 13:15:28 GMT, gcryar@aol.com (GCRYAR) wrote:
>
>>Just after we finish with Kanada. They are the bigger threat now. They are in
>>bed with the towel heads.

>
>Are soldiers are fighting and dying in Afghanastan - you ignorant
>a**hole!


After I calmed down I thought i would rewrite that post...


Our soldiers are fighting and dying in Afghanistan - you ignorant
a**hole!


(You got me real upset - lucky for you you are on the other side of a
cyber connection!!)






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