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Hey fellows, what's this field?

The last I've heard, most graduates of biomedical engineering programs
are usually not in demand unless they've also attended medical school.

And if they're talking about biotech/biopharma companies, the last I'd
checked, those industries hired MS and PhDs in cell biology,
biochemistry, physiology but not biological engineering?

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rrc wrote:

> The last I've heard, most graduates of biomedical engineering
programs
> are usually not in demand unless they've also attended medical
school.

That's crap. Of course, biomedical engineering graduates are in demand.
Just like the biomed E graduates who "attended medical school" in
demand as well. The matter is that there is much less of eng graduates
who also attended medical school (with its hefty fees). The employers
use the "medical school" as the discrimination tool to decrease their
applicants pool.

Besides, who in their right mind will go do engineering job after also
having a medical degree ? The eng job should be so highly paid so as to
cover the medical school fees. And as we know, the eng jobs are not
highly paid. Period.

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rrc wrote:

> The last I've heard, most graduates of biomedical engineering
programs
> are usually not in demand unless they've also attended medical
school.

That's crap. Of course, biomedical engineering graduates are in demand.
Just like the biomed E graduates who "attended medical school" in
demand as well. The matter is that there is much less of eng graduates
who also attended medical school (with its hefty fees). The employers
use the "medical school" as the discrimination tool to decrease their
applicants pool.

Besides, who in their right mind will go do engineering job after also
having a medical degree ? The eng job should be so highly paid so as to
cover the medical school fees. And as we know, the eng jobs are not
highly paid. Period.

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rrc wrote:

> The last I've heard, most graduates of biomedical engineering
programs
> are usually not in demand unless they've also attended medical
school.

That's crap. Of course, biomedical engineering graduates are in demand.
Just like the biomed E graduates who "attended medical school" in
demand as well. The matter is that there is much less of eng graduates
who also attended medical school (with its hefty fees). The employers
use the "medical school" as the discrimination tool to decrease their
applicants pool.

Besides, who in their right mind will go do engineering job after also
having a medical degree ? The eng job should be so highly paid so as to
cover the medical school fees. And as we know, the eng jobs are not
highly paid. Period.

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:Of course, biomedical engineering graduates are in demand.
Just like the biomed E graduates who "attended medical school" in
demand as well.

Actually, my point was that BMEs are not in demand at all. The ones
with MDs simply become doctors and leave the field.

Most medical instrumentation firms tend to hire mechanical, chemical,
and/or electrical engineering graduates; seldom do they hire BMEs.
Therefore, there's no shortage of 'biological engineers' in either
instrumentation or pharma industries.

A *biological engineering* shortage is the biggest crock out there
right now.

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> A *biological engineering* shortage is the biggest crock out there
> right now.


Singapore is a country that is currently pouring hundreds of millions
into this "biotech" field for the last 5-6 years, in a desperate
attempt ot gain a foothold in this field (Singapore has no industries
and is a tiny island).

On government orders the Universities there have churned out hundreds
of biotech students in the last 5-6 years, most of whom are either
unemployed in this tiny nation or wash test-tubes in laboratories.

Millions of $$$ spent on salaries to purchase retired Western
professors to chair in Singaporean universities - but little or no
output worth mentioning after many years.

They have also currently joined the Nano-tech bandwagon - we have to
see where that leads.

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brandon wrote:
>>A *biological engineering* shortage is the biggest crock out there
>>right now.
>
>
>
> Singapore is a country that is currently pouring hundreds of millions
> into this "biotech" field for the last 5-6 years, in a desperate
> attempt ot gain a foothold in this field (Singapore has no industries
> and is a tiny island).
>
> On government orders the Universities there have churned out hundreds
> of biotech students in the last 5-6 years, most of whom are either
> unemployed in this tiny nation or wash test-tubes in laboratories.
>
> Millions of $$$ spent on salaries to purchase retired Western
> professors to chair in Singaporean universities - but little or no
> output worth mentioning after many years.
>
> They have also currently joined the Nano-tech bandwagon - we have to
> see where that leads.
>

But, when everybody jumps on the bandwagon, finding a seat gets harder
and someone's bound to fall off. I suspect that it'll fade into the
background like a lot of other such ideas did in the past.

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brandon wrote:
>>A *biological engineering* shortage is the biggest crock out there
>>right now.
>
>
>
> Singapore is a country that is currently pouring hundreds of millions
> into this "biotech" field for the last 5-6 years, in a desperate
> attempt ot gain a foothold in this field (Singapore has no industries
> and is a tiny island).
>
> On government orders the Universities there have churned out hundreds
> of biotech students in the last 5-6 years, most of whom are either
> unemployed in this tiny nation or wash test-tubes in laboratories.
>
> Millions of $$$ spent on salaries to purchase retired Western
> professors to chair in Singaporean universities - but little or no
> output worth mentioning after many years.
>
> They have also currently joined the Nano-tech bandwagon - we have to
> see where that leads.
>

But, when everybody jumps on the bandwagon, finding a seat gets harder
and someone's bound to fall off. I suspect that it'll fade into the
background like a lot of other such ideas did in the past.

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brandon wrote:
>>A *biological engineering* shortage is the biggest crock out there
>>right now.
>
>
>
> Singapore is a country that is currently pouring hundreds of millions
> into this "biotech" field for the last 5-6 years, in a desperate
> attempt ot gain a foothold in this field (Singapore has no industries
> and is a tiny island).
>
> On government orders the Universities there have churned out hundreds
> of biotech students in the last 5-6 years, most of whom are either
> unemployed in this tiny nation or wash test-tubes in laboratories.
>
> Millions of $$$ spent on salaries to purchase retired Western
> professors to chair in Singaporean universities - but little or no
> output worth mentioning after many years.
>
> They have also currently joined the Nano-tech bandwagon - we have to
> see where that leads.
>

But, when everybody jumps on the bandwagon, finding a seat gets harder
and someone's bound to fall off. I suspect that it'll fade into the
background like a lot of other such ideas did in the past.

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BMJ wrote:
>
> But, when everybody jumps on the bandwagon, finding a seat gets
harder
> and someone's bound to fall off. I suspect that it'll fade into the
> background like a lot of other such ideas did in the past.

Unfortunately, biological engineering and nanotechnology are touted as
the next *big thing* which would save the economy. The problem is that
even from the get-go, these fields are a dud which is a real bad sign.

At least IT was a viable industry during the early 90s recession so it
wasn't inconceivable that IT could have been the big thing for the
mid-to-late 90s.

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rrc wrote:
> BMJ wrote:
>
>>But, when everybody jumps on the bandwagon, finding a seat gets
>
> harder
>
>>and someone's bound to fall off. I suspect that it'll fade into the
>>background like a lot of other such ideas did in the past.
>
>
> Unfortunately, biological engineering and nanotechnology are touted as
> the next *big thing* which would save the economy. The problem is that
> even from the get-go, these fields are a dud which is a real bad sign.
>
> At least IT was a viable industry during the early 90s recession so it
> wasn't inconceivable that IT could have been the big thing for the
> mid-to-late 90s.
>

For a while, thirty years ago, renewable energy was as well. Nowadays,
its legitimacy hinges on environmental aspects, but as long as economies
remain dependent upon oil, it's going to remain marooned in the twilight
zone.

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