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The Commoditization of Populations

"...The proportion of working-age adults who are still contributing to
a nation's entitlement programs, rather than receiving benefits from
them, is declining in almost every Western country.

Twenty years from now, what might the world's most precious,
depleting, natural resource be? Oil? Steel? Lumber? How about
working-age adults who are still contributing to a nation's
entitlement programs rather than receiving benefits from them?
Want to know how short the future supply of such people is? Well,
across the globe, nations like Japan, Australia, and Singapore are
actually begging their child rearing-age population to procreate.

[snip]

In addition to continually expanding the number of high-paying jobs
that are available in our nation, America is going to also have to
quickly come to grips with its illegal alien problem, and realize that
immigration is a strong component of our ability to grow our
workforce. As a result, the U.S. must not make the same errors that
Europe appears to be heading towards with regard to its Muslim
population. As working age, productive members of the society will
continue to command a high premium around the world, American
immigration policy should be taking advantage of the apparent biases
that are surfacing elsewhere to once again make our nation the
preferred vocational destination of people from all parts of the
globe."

Does America's ruling elite want to expand the number of high-paying jobs?

--Jerry Leslie
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leslie wrote:

> ... Japan, Australia, and Singapore are actually begging their child
rearing-age population to procreate.

This is a Big Lie. If there was a shortage of workers, the number of
unemployed decreased and everyone would enjoy the salary increase. I do
not observe that my salary increased, or that anyone is interested to
keep me.

I sat in my office and did nothing for the whole day. The modern
manager is not motivated to correctly utilize human resources in his
manage. With the labour pool tight, the managers will be motivated and
will be able to triple the productivity out of their pool of workers
without making them overworked.

I do not buy the shortage myth. Let 'em shove it up 'er ass. Besides,
if the society lsitened to the shouts of impeding population shortage,
and increased the fertility to such a degree, that there would be an
excess of workers, the society and the government would momentarily
turn their ignorant backs on the overproduced workers and their
problems of survival.

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leslie wrote:

> "In addition to continually expanding the number of high-paying
jobs
> that are available in our nation, America is going to also have to
> quickly come to grips with its illegal alien problem, and realize
that
> immigration is a strong component of our ability to grow our
> workforce. As a result, the U.S. must not make the same errors
that
> Europe appears to be heading towards with regard to its Muslim
> population. As working age, productive members of the society
will
> continue to command a high premium around the world, American
> immigration policy should be taking advantage of the apparent
biases
> that are surfacing elsewhere to once again make our nation the
> preferred vocational destination of people from all parts of the
> globe."
>
> Does America's ruling elite want to expand the number of high-paying
jobs?
>
> --Jerry Leslie
> Note: leslie@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for email

Some of these essays are unfathomable. First of all, the USA has almost
~300 million people; it's one of the largest nations on the earth (no 3
to be precise). Now, much of that population came out of immigration
during the 1800s and 1900s but during that time, the US was one of the
world's largest manufacturing centers and needed lots of workers for
those industries. Today, the US is mostly a service sector economy
living off the global currency swap. Now, how's increasing the
population going to help the job market? There's already a business
immigration system which allows for successful business types and
entreprenuers to bring their products and services to the US in return
for a green card. (FYI, anyone with a million dollars to invest gets an
easy green card provided that the money wasn't earned from mafioso-type
of activities) I'm not worried that America's missing out on lost
opportunities.

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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:05:35 GMT, LESLIE@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM
(leslie) wrote:

> http://www.intellectualconservative...rticle4020.html
> The Commoditization of Populations
>
> "...The proportion of working-age adults who are still contributing to
> a nation's entitlement programs, rather than receiving benefits from
> them, is declining in almost every Western country.
>
> Twenty years from now, what might the world's most precious,
> depleting, natural resource be? Oil? Steel? Lumber? How about
> working-age adults who are still contributing to a nation's
> entitlement programs rather than receiving benefits from them?
> Want to know how short the future supply of such people is? Well,
> across the globe, nations like Japan, Australia, and Singapore are
> actually begging their child rearing-age population to procreate.


That's one aspect of the demographics. You'd think that the other
would be to encourage older workers to keep working. In fact, many
people would LIKE to work on beyond their "typical" retirement age, IF
they could work on in a productive, rewarding job. In other words,
utilizing more of our older workforce effectively--the problem is not
on the supply side. Age discrimination is rampant and widely
acknowledged, especially in high-tech. fields. You'd think if we
really wanted to work an issue like this, we might look also at that
end of it.


>
> [snip]
>
> In addition to continually expanding the number of high-paying jobs
> that are available in our nation, America is going to also have to
> quickly come to grips with its illegal alien problem, and realize that
> immigration is a strong component of our ability to grow our
> workforce. As a result, the U.S. must not make the same errors that
> Europe appears to be heading towards with regard to its Muslim
> population. As working age, productive members of the society will
> continue to command a high premium around the world, American
> immigration policy should be taking advantage of the apparent biases
> that are surfacing elsewhere to once again make our nation the
> preferred vocational destination of people from all parts of the
> globe."
>
>Does America's ruling elite want to expand the number of high-paying jobs?
>
>--Jerry Leslie
> Note: leslie@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for email

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Brian G. Moore wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:05:35 GMT, LESLIE@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM
> (leslie) wrote:
>
>
>> http://www.intellectualconservative...rticle4020.html
>> The Commoditization of Populations
>>
>> "...The proportion of working-age adults who are still contributing to
>> a nation's entitlement programs, rather than receiving benefits from
>> them, is declining in almost every Western country.
>>
>> Twenty years from now, what might the world's most precious,
>> depleting, natural resource be? Oil? Steel? Lumber? How about
>> working-age adults who are still contributing to a nation's
>> entitlement programs rather than receiving benefits from them?
>> Want to know how short the future supply of such people is? Well,
>> across the globe, nations like Japan, Australia, and Singapore are
>> actually begging their child rearing-age population to procreate.
>
>
>
> That's one aspect of the demographics. You'd think that the other
> would be to encourage older workers to keep working. In fact, many
> people would LIKE to work on beyond their "typical" retirement age, IF
> they could work on in a productive, rewarding job. In other words,
> utilizing more of our older workforce effectively--the problem is not
> on the supply side. Age discrimination is rampant and widely
> acknowledged, especially in high-tech. fields. You'd think if we
> really wanted to work an issue like this, we might look also at that
> end of it.

Too often, companies want near-instant return on their investment,
rather than seeing how it might pay off in the long term.

It reminds me of something I encountered as an instructor. I often
heard my students complain about the high cost of textbooks with
additional wailing about how often they used them in the courses for
which those books were purchased. Few saw them as assets for the
future. I've often bought books that I've rarely used right away, but,
often, they provided me with a valuable piece of information that I
needed but couldn't find elsewhere.

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Brian G. Moore wrote:

> Age discrimination is rampant

The age discrimination exists in today's world because the labour
supply depending on the age, is not proper. The proper functioning of
economy calls for more middle-career specialists, and for less number
of people just starting career, and finishing their career. It is
understandable: peopel by the end of their career accumulated the
wealth of wisdom, and are better used as managers and consultants. But
economy does not need many people whose job is just to tell other
workers what to do. The economy needs productive competent people, and
this is what the mid-career professionals are. There is some need for
beginners, whose role is to do all the grunt work. But in today's
world, there are too many baby-boomers who by their age should be in
the last stages of their careers. Who is to blame ? And what to do ?
(BTW, these two are the traditional questions of the Russian
intellectuals... read Dostoevski, Chernyshevski, Lenin...).

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afia boy wrote:
> Brian G. Moore wrote:
>
>
>>Age discrimination is rampant
>
>
> The age discrimination exists in today's world because the labour
> supply depending on the age, is not proper. The proper functioning of
> economy calls for more middle-career specialists, and for less number
> of people just starting career, and finishing their career. It is
> understandable: peopel by the end of their career accumulated the
> wealth of wisdom, and are better used as managers and consultants. But
> economy does not need many people whose job is just to tell other
> workers what to do. The economy needs productive competent people, and
> this is what the mid-career professionals are. There is some need for
> beginners, whose role is to do all the grunt work. But in today's
> world, there are too many baby-boomers who by their age should be in
> the last stages of their careers. Who is to blame ? And what to do ?
> (BTW, these two are the traditional questions of the Russian
> intellectuals... read Dostoevski, Chernyshevski, Lenin...).
>
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That also assumes that older workers are not as productive as younger
ones, which isn't always the case.

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